How Ketosis Helps You Lose Weight Through Suppressed Appetite

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One of the reasons The Bulletproof Diet with Bulletproof Coffee works so well for people looking to lose weight is that Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting helps your body to more easily enter a state called cyclical ketosis, which is great for a whole bunch of reasons.

Ketosis is a cornerstone of becoming Bulletproof; listen to these recent Bulletproof Radio episodes with ketosis experts Jimmy Moore and Dominic D’Agostino to get the scoop on how and why it works. It’s what happens when your body switches to burning fat instead of sugar for energy, and it only happens when you eat almost no carbohydrates, or when you hack it using certain kinds of oils.

Many people first stumble upon the idea of ketosis while looking for a weight loss strategy.  That can be a major part of it for so many people out there who have tried just about every other diet out there but haven’t seen the results they’d hoped for. But when people experience the mental clarity and focus that ketosis brings, the game changes!

This post walks you through one of the most important yet underrated mechanisms that makes ketosis so effective for people who have tried everything else to lose weight and failed to keep it off: appetite suppression.

Ketosis works for weight loss in the short term, but that’s not why it’s so amazing. Short term weight loss is easy (I’ve lost at least 200 pounds of short term weight…because it always roared back on with a vengeance so I could lose it again!) When you look at keeping your weight off forever, ketosis provides a level of appetite suppression that is actually liberating. Ketosis helps you literally stop thinking about food all the time.

Why Calorie Counting Is So Ineffective

One of the reasons old-fashioned, calorie-restricted diets tend to fail is because these diets make you really hungry and cause food cravings.

Cutting calories to lose excess weight changes your hormones that control hunger and satiety so that after you starve yourself enough to lose some weight, your brain and gut start making your hormones work against you.[1],[2]

Your hormones scream, “eat more and gain that weight back!” So you do. And so begins a lifetime of yo-yo dieting, the one I used to live.

But it doesn’t have to go that way for you.

As tons of Bulletproof success stories have shown, it’s actually easy to lose weight, regain normal hormone levels and control your appetite through Bulletproof Dieting. If you eat the higher amount of healthy fats recommended on the Bulletproof Diet, get your carbs mostly from nutrient-rich vegetables, and use Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting, then you’ll be doing your hunger-and-weight-control system a favor by dipping often into the fat-burning state of ketosis.

Studies consistently show that when you combine ketosis with a low-calorie diet, you will likely experience an increase in appetite in the first days of your diet, and then a decrease in appetite and a return to normal appetite control in just a few days but you have to achieve ketosis for it to work.[3]

Or, you can skip the whole calorie-restriction, hungry-all-the-time thing, and just use ketosis to its full advantage without making yourself hungry.

Here’s how…

The Science Behind Using Ketosis to Suppress Appetite

Ketosis suppresses appetite in more than one way.

When you start eating more fat and cut out all those senseless carbs (sugar, bread, and the like), you tend to stop experiencing the blood sugar swings that plague most people on the Standard American Diet. These fluctuations cause intense hunger that keeps you lurching from one carb-heavy meal to the next, never feeling satisfied—and never reaching the deep fat-burning state of ketosis. But that’s not big news to most of us.

What’s exciting is that ketones suppress appetite in a variety of more subtle and significant ways because ketones can control hunger and satiety hormones. Scientists have identified that ketones impact cholecystokinin (CCK), a hormone which makes you feel full, and ghrelin, the “hunger hormone.”

Ketones and CCK

Your intestines release CCK after you eat, and it is a powerful regulator of food intake—so much so that injecting people with CCK (in a controlled study!) will cause them to cut their meals short.][4]

Your body secretes less CCK after you lose weight. In other words, when you are thinner, you will feel less sated with the same meal than you did before losing the weight. So you’ll crave more unhealthy foods. However, weight loss with ketosis keeps you from getting caught in this trap.

In fact, a recent study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition showed that even after 8 weeks of weight loss that resulted in significant reductions in CCK, just one week of ketosis returned CCK to baseline (pre-weight loss) levels.[4] In other words, even if you use famine-level calorie restriction to lose weight, you’d better pound the butter and cut carbs at the end unless you want to crave food all the time.

Ketosis and Ghrelin

Ghrelin is called “the hunger hormone” because it increases appetite. It’s released from your stomach and intestines, with blood levels reaching their highest point during normal fasting. When you eat a meal, ghrelin drops in response to nutrients circulating in your blood.

When scientists give ghrelin to rats, they eat more, gain weight, and use less fat for energy. When us humans get ghrelin injections, it causes a 28% increase in food intake.[5] When you lose weight you can bet your ghrelin levels go up – but not if you’re also in ketosis.

Ketosis completely suppresses the increase in ghrelin levels that occurs with weight loss.[6] In fact, if study subjects had ketone levels higher than 0.3 mM during dieting, their ghrelin levels actually went down compared to baseline (pre-weight loss) levels.[7] That means they wanted to eat less after they stopped dieting, instead of more!

Another study in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 2013 reported that the hunger levels of weight loss subjects whose blood ketone levels were 0.48 mM were completely unchanged from baseline after 8 weeks of dieting, despite an average 12.5% decrease in body weight and a 13.4% loss of fat mass.[2]

After two weeks of return to non-ketotic levels (blood ketones measured 0.19 mM), subjects’ rates of hunger and desire to eat were significantly higher than pre-weight loss levels. That’s why the Bulletproof Diet recommends cyclical ketosis, because if you’re in it a lot of the time, but not all the time, you never have to deal with that pesky gnawing hunger.

Because increased appetite following weight loss is one of the key factors in weight regain, this is nothing short of amazing.

You can be sure that ketones are the cause, because when scientists injected people with  ketones (again, in controlled studies!) it has the same appetite-suppressing effects as diets that induce ketosis.[8]

How Much Ketosis Is Enough Ketosis?

So what level of ketosis does the trick? A recent study published in January 2015 in Obesity Reviews found that a blood ketone level of 0.5 mM was sufficient to significantly suppress appetite in participants on a variety of diets.[9] Typically, circulating levels of ketones are at ~0.1 mM in the average person after an overnight fast.

Depending on your metabolism, just one large cup of Bulletproof Coffee in the morning (without other foods) can raise blood ketone levels to levels that suppress appetite. At my buddy Zak’s house last year, I ate a lot of sushi with rice for dinner which ended my ketosis because I woke up with blood ketone levels of 0.1 mM, far below the appetite suppression levels in these studies. Then Zak handed me a large fresh-made Bulletproof Coffee. A half hour later, my blood ketone meter read 0.7 mM – more than enough to kick ass all day.

So there you have it – there are great reasons to be in ketosis at least some of the time every week, even if it’s the kind of mild ketosis you can bring on by hacking your morning coffee. The Bulletproof Diet book is full of ways to put this knowledge to use to end hunger and boost your energy – check it out if you haven’t read it!

 

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By Dave Asprey

  • Peggy Holloway

    Ketogenic + bulletproof =amazing. I wouldn’t want to live any other way.

    Age 62 and a force to contend with and just get better eery day. Same for my 73 year-old partner and 26 year-old son (who got us onto BP after we had been ketogenic for 3 years; he makes the best BP coffee ever).

  • Cody Fyler

    So what do you do when you are in Ketosis and you aren’t losing weight?

    What do you do when you lower calories to less than 1,000, are in ketosis (as measured by both breath and urine ketones) and you don’t lose a pound?

    What then?

    • Piter Nortug

      sprint once in a while ( mark sisson docet )it works ( for me at least )

    • Thomas Jones

      Check what you are eating really does have total carb content of around 25g per day, if unsure then eat less carbs, and up your fat intake, I eat Kerrygold butter, it works. No sprinting necessary, either.

      • Cody Fyler

        I am IN KETOSIS. Carbs under 20 grams (many days far lower).

        • Diane Ballard-Yunghans

          You might want to explore an Egg Fast this really helped my weight loss. I was in a stall and even in just the first week lost 7 lbs where low carb I would be lucky to lose a half pound. Might be worth exploring. Plus it is a great way to check what is affecting you negatively as you bring food back into your diet.

        • Cody Fyler

          I’ll give it a shot. You got great results, do you have a link to the version you followed?

    • Martin von Wolfersdorff

      Cody, do not calorie restrict on the ketogenic diet. That stresses the body which then produces cortisol and generates carbohydrates from your muscles. Also, use a blood sugar / ketone device which is much more reliable. Fasted morning targets are under 4.4 mmol/l blood sugar and above 0.5 mmol/l ketones.
      Less than 50g carbs a day, not much more than 1.5g protein per kg body weight a day, no coffee, no alcohol, no diary, no nuts and lots of sleep before midnight, then it should be easy to get into ketosis.

      • Cody Fyler

        I’m actually in ketosis. I’ve blown red days in a row on my ketonix. And I’ve got the diet part down. Still zero weight loss.

        I’ve eaten nothing but butter and miracle noodles for 5 days in a row before. Zero weight loss. I did have coffee in the morning, but I highly doubt that would cause an issue.

        • Martin von Wolfersdorff

          Well, maybe you are in ketosis, but you might not be keto-adapted. Your body does not seem to use the ketones, otherwise your Ketonic would not flash red. Your body gets rid of ketones via urine and breath. Think of a more balanced diet, avocados (potassium!), bacon!, salmon, broccoli (potassium!), oh and bone broth. If you stress your body with monotonous dieting, coffee and sleep deficit, it won’t keto-adapt. Test your blood values to be sure. The Ketonic is but a gadget. I have one too btw.

        • You said something very interesting… “You maybe in ketosis, but not Keto-adapted.”
          I have not lost any weight… In fact gaining a bit.
          57, post menopause.
          Tried all types of macros… Ratios. Been under 20-30 carbs since January and before that under 50-100 for a long time. Previously lost 25 lbs and 10% body fat.
          I do have dry wine on the weekends.. 2 glasses.
          Drink coffee… 2-cups organic
          But otherwise organic foods, grass fed meats and butters, some raw cheese. MCT oil 2-3 tbsp daily.
          I have read 5 books.
          Also have a ketonix.
          Some say … Don’t eat too much fat… Or you won’t burn excess body fat. Some say eat more fat to burn more fat. Some say don’t watch calories… Some say low calories…
          I am thinking I will not achieve my goals… 23% BF 125lbs.
          I strength train also as I can, 4 days a week for 75 mins.
          I am currently 30% BF 140lbs
          I was 40% BF 170 lbs.
          I am 5’7″
          What do you think?
          Ty,
          Disa

        • madeleinefulton@yahoo.com

          I agree with Martin: it sounds like you are putting too much stress on your body–not only with calorie restriction, but with nutrient restriction. Also coffee can definitely cause cortisol spikes that inhibit fat loss. Good luck!

        • Michael

          You are probably restricting too much calories and your body is holding on to fat for survival. Just add the calories I keep mine between 1700 and 2200 and put 2 sprint workouts during the week, a 30 min daily walk and I lost 50 lbs.
          Ketosis is the only thing that has helped me and trust me, I tried everything!

        • Stephanie Hope Barrett

          How often do you sprint? I’m a bit lost on the exercise routine.

        • Michael

          Twice a week with a 48+ window in between, while your muscles can recover faster from the strain you need the let your nervous system recover aswell.

          These resources can help you. I do it on a Bike because of bad knees and back.

          http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2011/08/the-complete-guide-to-interval-training/

          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/references/sprint-workout-suggestions/#axzz3YhsWfIVE

    • Laura Wilfong

      Patience. I was bulletproof for about 8 weeks, before I saw a significant weight loss. Now my weight appears to be in free fall. In the last week, 10 lbs have magically vanished. Now I need to add in more carbs to slow the runaway train down. Thanks to this lifestyle, my BMI is below 25, for the first time in my 63 years of life. Living Bulletproof is the only way to go.

      • Cody Fyler

        Maybe I didn’t give it long enough. 8 weeks, huh? Did you eliminate any foods (such as dairy or eggs, like mentioned in the other replies)?

        • Laura Wilfong

          I am absolutely grain free, and grass fed butter is the only dairy I use, but I use plenty of it. I eat nuts, in moderation, occasionally. In past low-carb diets, the weight loss has been faster at the start, and slower later on. Oh, the last thing I gave up was Chocolate. I know, that sounds tragic. But when I saw the results, which were beyond weight loss (apparently I had a sensitivity to Chocolate that I had never known about), I am very much OK with doing without. Chris, keep up the good fight. Read Dave’s book. His advice has worked well for me.

        • Ann

          Regular not grassfed dairy is complete poison to your body.

      • Sheryl

        Laura, how many hours do you fast for?

        • Laura Wilfong

          Typically, I will fast for 16-18 hours. I have been known to go longer, on days when I have lots of activities to keep me busy. I find that the Bulletproof coffee is so satisfying to my body that I typically don’t even think about food all morning and well into the afternoon. (That’s a huge change for me, since the subtext in my mind for my entire life has been, “Where can I get food?”)

      • Davenna Carwie

        Sometimes a calorie deficient that is too low can throw you into “Starvation mode” Try bumping it up a bit. 1000 is really too low IMO.

    • CC

      You’re starving your body. You can’t follow the bp diet properly at 1000 calories a day.
      It’s not about calories in equaling calories out. Eat the number of servings of food in the proportions he tells you to eat and throw calories out the window. Do that and I bet you’re body will come out of the starvation mode you must have put it in and it’ll allow you to lose weight instead of stubbornly/desperately holding onto it because it will no longer think you’re starving.

    • Ann

      Why are you eating less than 1000 calories? That’s not in the diet.

    • I can SO RELATE… I think I’m the only person who can gain weight in ketosis.. As measured. Only have 15-20 lbs to go… As your post was a year ago… What happened?

  • JessM

    Ketosis can be fairly effective from what I’ve seen, but it still has all the drawbacks of a “fad” diet because of how strict you need to be. The best way for effective AND long-term results is using a well-rounded program that facilitates a healthy lifestyle by addressing every problem area. Here’s a great article on the kind of things to look for in a solid program: fatfreeme.net/big5

    • Kevin

      Trust me it’s not a fad diet. A lot of people who body build and try go gain mass use this as well and we all agree that it’s a lifestyle and not a fad.

      • Tom Wandersee

        I have been fighting the battle of the bulge a long time….this way of eating has been perfect for me and I have a year of the ketogenic diet under my belt now….I just don’t think about food ….ever….I drink a lot of my meals….raw eggs and heavy cream for breakfast is a main stay….I know it sounds horrible but I can get about 1500 calories in 5 minutes and not think about food again for a very long time…If I have to eat carbs in a social situation I just make the best choice on the menu I can and get back on track as soon as possible. I use to exercise and now I don’t….I’m slim and muscular… I do take two creatine pills a day and some BCAAs as well. I also drink my veggies…usually frozen spinach with some Stevia and whey protein. Eat a lot of frozen fish out of the freezer and into the toaster oven…Simple…..grass fed beef….beef liver….avacados…..so easy. love it……….Blood work is awsome too! HDL cholesteral 78 Triglicirides 41 LDL 161….That LDL number may sound high but reseach lipid “particle size” This has been really good for me, mental clarity has never been better…..

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  • Joe Guerra

    Should I skip my breakfast fast for a cup of bulletproof coffee? I’ve been eating in an 8hr window and fasting 16 hrs. Thx.

    • CC

      Dave says the bp coffee in the morning doesn’t break the fast. your body doesn’t recognize it as food. If you put the optional collagen in it for protein, THEN it does break the fast.

  • kytenn

    What kind of blood ketone meter do you use

  • haroldcrews

    I’ve been in ketosis for eight months the end of April. Aside from about two months of a rash that ended several months ago I’ve never felt better. Didn’t do it for the weight loss since I was already about where I wanted to be but for the other health benefits of lowering inflammation or improving cholesterol markers.

  • Brandi Shaw

    What do you do about someone not having a gallbladder? I was in ketosis once, but with nasty side effect of bile salts diarrhea, too much bile for the intestines to re-uptake (worse with mct oil) . Also 2 months in I ran smack dab into physiological insulin resiatance, which is something I know can effect LONG time low carbers. It took 2 weeks of eating lots of carbs to get my blood sugars down and 6 months to get back to ketogenic lifestyle. So I struggle between a rock and a hard place, on one hand i like how i feel on LCHF but i dont like the annoying diarrhea. To top it off im struggleing to get ketogenic and lose weight. :3

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        That is cute. My liver misses him tho, I dont think it made many stones. Then again the Gastroenterologist (who makes money performing surgery) simply told me I didnt need it. If I could draw comics I would draw them being torn away from each other.Gallbladder is like ”liver, whats going on?” Lots of sad terrified panels “hold on, gallbladder!” 🙁

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    • jbd

      Brandi, did you ever get any answers to this? I have some of the same questions. I wonder if digestive enzymes can overcome the challenge.

      • Brandi Shaw

        Not really, although I have found that if I take a good probiotic/unmodified potato starch in combo with actual pancreas helps a lot. By actual pancreas I don’t mean the pancreatic enzymes made from plats, My digestion is subpar and I am not a plant so I dont feel like those really do me much good. I still struggle with it but I am mildly ketotic. Absolutely do not take MCT oil unless you want yellow burning liquid coming from. . . Calcium also helps as most of it is unabsorbed in the GI tract, but dont take it before meal and take well after meals because calcium will grab on to nutrients just like it will grab up bile.

      • Christi Baus

        Jbd, I just answer Brandi: Nutritional Ketosis has become so much easier these days. A new product that launched in July is putting people into Ketosis the same day, often within a few hours. Naturally occurring Ketones are sourced rather than radical dieting and massive high fats. So instead of forcing your liver to create ketones you can now ingest them and enter Ketosis easily. My husband lost 7 lbs in 4 days using this method. Please visit http://www.jotformpro.com/TheLifestyleBroker/k_contact for more information

    • Christi Baus

      Brandi maybe this could help you. Nutritional Ketosis has become so much easier these days. A new product that launched in July is putting people into Ketosis the same day, often within a few hours. Naturally occurring Ketones are sourced rather than radical dieting and massive high fats. So instead of forcing your liver to create ketones you can now ingest them and enter Ketosis easily. My husband lost 7 lbs in 4 days using this method. Please visit http://www.jotformpro.com/TheLifestyleBroker/k_contact for more information

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  • Ann

    I’m a vegan, and not an ounce of junk food or sugar, I eat only fruits and veggies, and please don’t comment that I need meat, I will never eat it and I don’t believe one needs it. I ate very low fat but after 5 years and lots of hard workouts, I felt I needed fat. My skin was a bit itchy and I was unusually tired. One day on this butter was mind blowing. First of all, one taste of this butter transported me to the pleasures of going to my Grandma’s house, who always had real butter before we had to seek out grass fed butter. My parent’s bought Country Crock for as long as I can remember and they were obese their whole lives. I had about 5 tablespoons yesterday and I felt amazing. Light. Not hungry. I did not eat enough for the day but I wasn’t trying to not eat. I woke up very light headed. I had energy all day though, and clarity. A good mood. I felt thinner even. I can’t wait to eat this butter. Even my hormones felt different and I am in perimenopause.

    • I get what you are saying, as a former vegan… However vegan’s don’t eat butter or any animal product. Just sayin’

      • Nate

        Yeah low carb Vegetarian makes more sense.

  • Firebird7478

    Dave leaves out the part where he is on low doses of testosterone.

    • Mark Joyner

      He doesn’t leave that out at all. He speaks openly about it. He and pretty much every man over 40.

    • Jonathan Karlsruhe

      Add modafinil to that. But you are missing the message. I think the real value of Dave’s message is to reexamine your approach to diet. Don’t be afraid to try what works for others and always evaluate the feedback for yourself.

    • Mcstorm

      I’m 32 and have low testosterone and I was eating a normal diet high in carbs. I am now on ketosis for 2 weeks and feel great. I don’t think ketosis causes low testosterone!

  • Paloma

    If the ketone stick reads “trace” (mild pink) is that enough to suppress CCK? That’s usually what mine reads.

  • I’ve been drinking Bulletproof coffee for periodically for about one year now. I usually fast on the coffee for 3 hours every morning, then I eat a low carb breakfast. I have noticed a few pounds weight loss (my BMI has always been around 22). Now, maybe I haven’t done my reading properly but how do I know if I’ve been in Ketosis? Is it possible that I have been by fasting in the mornings? Or is that not enough fasting? Is there a way of testing yourself? I’m little bit confused and I don’t want to guess.

    • Ann

      Why don’t you actually take the time to read the instructions and then actually do them. Coffee periodically and 3 hours of fasting isn’t this diet.

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  • Christi Baus

    Nutritional Ketosis has become so much easier these days. A new product that launched in July is putting people into Ketosis the same day, often within a few hours. Naturally occurring Ketones are sourced rather than radical dieting and massive high fats. So instead of forcing your liver to create ketones you can now ingest them and enter Ketosis easily. My husband lost 7 lbs in 4 days using this method. Please visit http://www.jotformpro.com/TheLifestyleBroker/k_contact for more information.

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  • john

    I’m fairly new to this myself, so take this with a grain of salt. I believe that the way it works is like gears on a car, you shift your body into “ketosis” gear when you break the mct’s down into ketones. When your body finishes off the mct ketones, it looks for another source of ketones. It finds your belly fat and saids, “look we have plenty of energy coming in, we don’t need these stores, let’s use em!”, and converts your stored fats into ketones for fuel. All because it doesn’t, or can’t, switch gears. As far as how much is too much, I would guess that you will have a had time over doing the mct’s, obviously if you eat 10,000 calories worth then you probably won’t lose weight, but I use 2TBSP mct, and 2 TBSP butter in my morning tea, and have lost 10 lbs. The other thing is that the oil is an appetite suppressant, so you will eat less.

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  • Randall

    “When you start eating more fat and cut out all those senseless carbs (sugar, bread, and the like)” lol, another trendy gimmick. This is ridiculous and one of the reasons everyone I know on the low carb/no carb train continue to yo yo. Those who like bread aren’t going to give up bread forever and if you pull this low carb crap and cut out bread, your body will be energy starved and start oxidizing protein for energy for protein which is inefficient. Then when you cave and start eating carbs again, becuase you will because everybody loves bread, etc, you will gain weight even quicker since your body doesn’t know what to do with carbs. I lost 60 lbs counting calories and eating all the carbs I want. No cravings here. But keep people on that hamster wheel.

    • Nikki Engel

      Hey Randy! I lost 40lbs doing the ketosis “diet” (not any specific plan, and not the Bulletproof stuff listed above, just ketosis). I slept so good, had an unreal sense of clarity, and as someone with IBS, didn’t have any symptoms. The best part was that I didn’t crave carbs anymore. Is it magic? Obviously not, and I added carbs back in, but if or when I feel like I’ve over indulged, I just know how to control myself a little better. Congrats on your weight loss too! We’re all different, so what works for one won’t work for another necessarily. Just wanted to give my two cents 🙂 happy new year!

      • Christina E Sarno

        I do not love bread dude. I get sick from it. Pretty simple stuff, you can train yourself to not like something if it’s not good for you. What you are failing to recognize is that you are suppose to eat a lot of protein too in ketosis, which keeps your lean muscle mass healthy.

        • Mike Ipsen

          Nobody should ‘love’ any food really. Loving something implies an emotional attachment to food. Getting over that is one hurdle. Once over it the sky is the limit.

        • Christina E

          @mipsen:disqus agreed no one should love food. I didn’t suggest that concept, I was replying to @disqus_B3scgBmh8c:disqus’s comment about “everyone loves bread”, none the less, I do agree conceptually about the first part of your point. I am unsure how the sky is the limit however and would appreciate you elaborating. One thing I’ve encountered in online groups and boards is that people that follow a Ketogenic diet are high strung & even a bit nasty. Carbohydrates & sugar do calm us down; I would hypothesis that a portion of people who follow Ketogenic diets may have a little less patience than people who don’t. You seem to be adding a bit of attitude when its not really necessary & doesn’t get your point across clearer, it just makes you seem a bit grumpy.

        • Mike Ipsen

          I find just the opposite for me. My mood is mellow and calm in ketosis while sugar and carbs can make me grumpy and angry at the world. So you canot say that carbs and sugar calm us all down. maybe it does for you. Maybe is it psychological instead of biological. I have not seen any study or research to support your claim. I have for the opposite though. It is possible that you rad my message as grumpy because it is the current voice in your own head. We all apply our own voice to written text. Something to think about.

        • Christina E

          Uh, the voice in my head is doing just fine, but l am confused at people saying I am ridiculous when I am asking a question I don’t know the answer to. You can try to spin that & say I am grumpy, but I get grumpy when people call me names and I am only trying to understand. When people call you ridiculous how does that make your voice in your head? Why don’t you just take responsibility for being rude for no reason instead of blaming it on me? Admittedly so, I am having a hard time with this diet. Why would you go ahead and call me ridiculous when i am telling you I am struggling with this & trying to understand? To me, that sounds like someone who lacks compassion, or is grumpy.

        • Mike Ipsen

          So at no point did I call YOU ridiculous. I called the idea/expectation of constant weight loss ridiculous. You are correct, I am not a warm fuzzy person. I am more logical and analytical. So many I came across as to direct. I just state the truth, some struggle with that.

        • Christina E

          I’m a born & raised native New Yorker. I prefer honesty & straight forward people, as I am as well. There is a way to respectfully respond to people asking questions on a blog, who are trying to learn about something. It’s very simple.

        • I did not read into that, at any point, that he was saying you are ridiculous, Christina. The general idea of expecting to see weight loss every day when stepping on the scale is a ridiculous standard to set for yourself because it doesn’t happen. I have always been told never to weigh myself more often than once per week, and always first thing in the morning in order to get an accurate reading. I know I’m just kind of jumping in here, but I’m learning too and this thread has been helpful. My boss at work has been on the Keto diet for about 3 months or so now and she’s lost 20 pounds so far. She was already slim, but wanted to get back down to a goal weight from when she was younger. It has worked wonders for her so I’m learning about it. Anyway, just wanted to say that no one is attacking you personally so hopefully you won’t feel so bad. I’ve read this whole thread and didn’t see that aimed at you.

        • Kel

          judging by her profile photo (she already looks skinny), bad attitude, and obsession with weight loss, seems like she may be using keto as a vessel for a potential eating disorder. sad really.

    • Mike Ipsen

      Actually, you are the one that is full of it. Maybe I do not care because I do not miss bread, pasta, or sugar in any way. Maybe you should think about your own addictions to said products before slamming others. Good on you for losing 60 lbs, let’s see you keep it off. I am betting that will not happen, because restricting you calories actually makes you want more. Keep thumping that drum if ignorance though.

  • Christina E Sarno

    I’m going on 2 weeks in ketosis (measured on the sticks you can buy at the pharmacy) and I am starving! When is this going to end? It’s by far one of the most torturous diets I have ever experienced. I have zero energy and am hungry after every meal. I only needed to loose 10lbs & I have issues with sugar & inflammation, so I was hoping that the Keto diet would help, but I honestly, truly feel terrible! I’ve stuck with it (tomorrow is 2 weeks), but I am praying my appetite will finally go away as promised & that my damn energy will come back! I’m eating way more food than I ever have (I’ve only gained 3lbs, but aren’t you supposed to loose weight on a diet?) and I am weak. I’m not eating processed foods, mostly eggs, turkey burgers (no bun), Manchego (expensive) cheese, Almond butter, spinach, green squash, Grapeseed oil, garlic, HWC, Whey protein, unsweetened Almond milk & Stevia. I’m being super careful about everything (as I always am), but I am frigging hungry! I even bought the Bulletproof MCT oil and have put it in my smoothies (I tried the coffee but I can’t stand the jitteriness & also noticed that everyday I used the MCT oil I gained a LB the next day & felt even extra hungry day of). I wish I knew how much longer in ketosis I have to stay until my torturous hungry and low energy switches. Any recommendations would be appreciated thanks.

    • Krissy

      You have to eat more fat. Fat is your new fuel. If you don’t eat enough you will feel awful. I take a jar of organic coconut oil with me to work. If I am starving and don’t have time I grab a tablespoon of that and shake up some greens. You probably are underestimating the fat you need. We are so trained to avoid it that it is hard to let go of that training.

      • Christina E

        Thank you @disqus_FQ0k68Jj9X:disqus, I wish I knew someone I could ask questions about this everyday until I started feeling better. I ate a salad with apple cider vinegar & coconut oil with spinach & my fitness tracker said it was too many carbs & it threw me out of Ketosis. What has been very hard for me is not eating a lot of vegetables (which I have been doing for many years & usually feeling good while doing) because of their carb content & it adding up to over 20 grams. And I don’t mean starchy vegetables, I do mean the mostly green ones. I also find it hard to eat things like Avocado & Coconut oil because even now when I eat them, its a guaranteed extra pound on the scale without fail. Like I said, I wish I had a friend that’s successfully switched to eating Keto that I could speak to on the regular. I’m really having a hard time with all of this. Thanks again for your insight.

        • Lanes Shipway

          Hi Christina E,
          Please don’t stop eating your favourite vegetables! I have them with my lunch (which is when I “break my fast” and also for dinner. I steam broccoli, bok choy, cauliflower, zucchini, squash, spinach ect ect and drizzle them in butter. Yum yum. Remember it’s only the NET carbs that count (carbs minus fibre). You need these nutrients plus their fibre.

    • Mike Ipsen

      If you are starving it is safe to say you are not eating nearly enough fat. Drink Bulletproof Coffee, add coconut oil to your foods, also butter too. Eating too much protein can be an issue too. Make sure fat consumption is well above protein. Also quit tracking your weight daily, that is a great way to fail. Weight loss expectations of daily loss are ridiculous.

      • Christina E

        Thank you for your reply @mipsen:disqus ! I wish I could speak with someone about this daily who I could ask questions until I felt better. Its been very weird eating opposite of how I normally have most of my adult life (since I’ve mostly avoided fat) & having faith that this will eventually level out. When you say weight loss expectations of a daily loss are ridiculous can you please elaborate? What is ridiculous about trying to understand, learning and being vulnerable?

        • Mike Ipsen

          Oh and what I meant about daily loss being ridiculous is all people lose differently. We think weight loss is a straight line down, but it rarely is. We will lose 5 pounds and gain 3, then lose 3 and gain 1. The idea is that over the long term it is still a net loss. That does not mean we will lose weight daily. I would recommend taking measurements so you can see your body is changing even without losing weight. It seems for most that their body is restructuring during non-loss or slight gain days/weeks.

        • Fantastic Mr Hank

          keto diet DOES go against the fabric of common diets, it’s simple: 1) cut out all carbs and sweets 2) eat more protein 3) eat even more fat. That’s it! Keto diet had worked wonders for me in the past, I’m about to start it off again. Good luck!

    • Kel

      doesn’t sound like this diet is right for you. nobody should ever feel hungry on keto. that’s kinda the point. you feel satiated with protein and fat… you actually feel “hungry” more on the SAD diet.

      if you’re hungry you’re doing it wrong… basically, yes, hate to say it but sounds like you’re starving yourself, and you have bigger problems than keto.

      • Christina E

        I listened to what everyone said and felt terrible. I don’t think Keto is for everyone. Thanks for your input @kel

  • @KarinBellantoni

    Wondering if you know about the Dukan Diet? I lost 16lbs on it last year very quickly and felt great. I did the protein only days for only 3 days and I didnt alternate after the first three just protein and veg everyday. I was in ketosis for sure….feels great but no wine:) Is it safe for your organs to be in ketosis for 3-5 days straight on just protein>?

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