Can Vegetarians Eat The Bulletproof Diet?

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A major part of the Bulletproof Diet (if you’re new to it, welcome) is high-quality meat. Grass-fed meat and wild-caught seafood are supreme sources of fat, cholesterol, protein, vitamins, and minerals that are tough to find elsewhere. Meat is a simple way to get a lot of nutrition, fast. It’s like nature’s multivitamin (not that you should take a multivitamin).

Plenty of people don’t eat meat, and one of the most common questions I get is whether vegetarians can eat Bulletproof.

The answer: it’s challenging but possible. You’ll want to be conscious of a few possible gaps in nutrition and make sure you fill them. Below are common pitfalls many vegetarians face – and Bulletproof hacks for each. But before that…

 

Consider eating meat the Bulletproof way

People become vegetarian for all kinds of reasons – religious beliefs, ethical qualms, environmental concerns, and health reasons, to name a few. Before you read the rest of this article, ask yourself why you became vegetarian. If you did it for ethical, environmental, or health reasons, you may want to reconsider your decision to swear off meat.

  • Many vegetarians stop eating meat because they’re put off by the many horrors of factory farming. If you’re concerned about the ethics of eating meat, ask yourself this: would you eat an animal that lived its life grazing on lush pastures, away from the cages and steroid injections of the American meat industry? If so, switch to pasture-raised meat. Grass-fed meat is great for you, and it’s the most cruelty-free option omnivores have.
  • Another reason for going vegetarian is concern that raising cattle hurts the environment. Again, that may be true for factory-farmed animals, but as this Wall Street Journal article reveals, it isn’t the case for those that are pasture-raised. In fact, raising cows on pasture replenishes the soil and protects land from development. Eating grass-fed meat is better for the planet than eating no meat at all.
  • If you’re avoiding meat because you think it’s bad for you, these two articles might make you reconsider. The toxins, steroids, antibiotics, and inflammatory fats in grain-fed and/or factory-farmed meat are the problems. High-quality meat is amazing for you.

Still set on being a vegetarian? We won’t try to stop you. Here are a few tips for eating a meat-free version of the Bulletproof Diet.

 

1) Know your omega-3s…and get a lot of the right kind

Omega-3 fatty acids are great for you. They compete in your body with inflammatory omega-6 fats, and omega-3 consumption links with better cardiovascular performance.

Companies that tout vegetarian omega-3-rich foods – chia seeds, flaxseeds, and hemp seeds, for example – aren’t giving you the whole picture. It’s true that these seeds are high in omega-3s, but they all contain ALA, which is the kind your body can’t use directly.

There are three main types of omega-3 fats:

  • EPA and DHA are the types your body can readily use. They’re essential for brain function. They’re also almost exclusively found in animal products.
  • ALA isn’t as valuable because your body has to convert it to EPA to use it. ALA comes mostly from plants, and while some animals – rats, for example – are very good at converting ALA to EPA, humans are not. You only convert and use about 6% of the ALA you eat to EPA, and only about 4% to DHA [1].

A study showed that vegetarian men who took 3.7 grams of ALA every day had tiny increases in EPA; when they took 15.4 grams of ALA daily (that’s about ¼ cup of flaxseed or 7 teaspoons of flaxseed oil) their EPA did increase, but it was still lower than the EPA levels of participants who ate meat, and much lower than the EPA levels of participants who ate fish [2].

Basically, plant-based ALA is not an efficient way to boost your omega-3 levels. Here are a few better options:

  • Take a krill oil or fish oil supplement. It’s the most effective way to get EPA and DHA. The link is to krill oil made by Jarrow. Bulletproof has no affiliation with Jarrow – we just love their commitment to purity and quality.
  • Eat pasture-raised eggs. They have lots of EPA and DHA – about 3 times as much as conventional eggs do. Make sure you get “pasture-raised” and not “free range” eggs. The latter just means the chickens have access to the outside; in many cases the bulk of their diet is still cheap feed.
  • Be extra-conscious of your omega-6 intake. The ratio between omega-6 and omega-3 fats is important because the two compete in the body, and the higher the ratio in favor of omega-3s, the fewer inflammatory omega-6s your body will use. Vegans often have a poorer ratio than meat-eaters do [3,4]. For vegetarians, though, that doesn’t have to be the case. Limit omega-6-rich oils and fats like olive oil and avocado – unless you’re getting plenty of DHA and EPA from supplements and eggs.

 

2) Avoid vegetarian meat replacements and frankenfoods

 Most vegetarian “meat” products are nutritional abominations.

  • Seitan may be the worst offender. Seitan is 100% wheat gluten – it’s like edible inflammation.
  • Soy-based meat replacements like tofu and tempeh are no good either. Fresh soy is high in inflammatory lectins. It also contains phytic acid, an antinutrient that binds to minerals and stops your body from using them. Fermenting soy decreases phytic, acid but it also creates allergy-triggering histamine. To top it off, soy is estrogenic and can throw your hormones out of whack. Fresh or fermented, soy is trouble.

In addition to meat replacements, several other vegetarian staples have drawbacks:

  • Beans, like soy, are high in lectins and phytic acid. There’s a reason they have a reputation for causing gas and bloating – the lectins in beans can damage your stomach lining and cause leaky gut syndrome. You can read more about the downsides of beans here.
  • Wheat, barley, corn, potatoes, quinoa, and similar carb sources are all out. Get your carbs from sweet potatoes, pumpkin, carrot, butternut squash, and white rice instead.

 

3) Get plenty of cholesterol and fat

Vegetarians often don’t eat a lot of fat, and many have lower cholesterol than meat-eaters do [5]. Fat is a cornerstone of the Bulletproof Diet, and even the American Heart Association has stated that cholesterol is not the enemy doctors and nutritionists make it out to be. Make sure you get plenty of high-quality fat and cholesterol. Here are a few good sources:

  • Egg yolks are high in cholesterol and fat and egg whites are a great source of protein. To maximize the nutrients you get from eggs, cook your whites (cooking makes egg protein more absorbable) and keep the yolk raw. Soft-boiled or sunny-side up eggs are solid choices. Again, always go for pasture-raised eggs.
  • Grass-fed butter is chock-full of saturated fat, cholesterol, butyrate, CLA, carotene, and vitamins A, K2, E, and D (many vegetarians are vitamin D deficient; even if you eat butter, consider supplementing with 1000 iu/25 lbs. body weight). Throw it on all those veggies you eat!
  • Raw nuts are full of fat too. Just don’t overdo it – they have a significant amount of omega-6.

 

4) Tweak your supplements

In addition to krill or fish oil, a couple other supplements are especially important for vegetarians:

  • Vitamin D acts on more than 1000 genes, serves as a substrate for sex hormones like testosterone and estrogen, and moderates immune function and inflammation. Most people, vegetarian or not, could use more vitamin D, and vegetarians are especially likely to be vitamin D deficient. Try taking vitamin D3 at a dose of 1000 iu / 25 lbs. bodyweight. Go for a brand that packages in olive oil, like Jarrow.
  • Vegetarians are also at risk of vitamin B12 deficiency. Recent research showed that 92% of vegans were B12 deficient. So were 77% of vegetarians who ate eggs and dairy products. Only 11% of meat eaters had a B12 deficiency [6]. The most abundant sources of vitamin B12 are meat (especially organ meat), eggs, and some shellfish. If you aren’t eating any of those, consider a supplement.

Are you a vegetarian doing Bulletproof? How is it going for you? Any other tips or tricks you’ve found helpful? If so, share them in the comments! Thanks for reading.

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  • zenofwp

    You wrote, “If you’re avoiding meat because you think it’s bad for you, we urge you to read these two articles and reconsider” Which two articles are you referring to? You only link to one article, the one from the WSJ.

  • irlisomg

    I don’t eat meat but I eat fish/seafood. Bulletproof diet is very easy then!

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  • katydid

    You prefer white rice over quinoa? Why?

  • Peggy Holloway

    I don’t know anyone who has successfully done that. Anyone in my family who has been vegan for any length of time suffered horrendous health complications, many of them connected to mood and mental health disorders along with the GI problems. I know a young man who went so “crazy” trying to be a raw food vegan that he ended up with a nervous breakdown and was hospitalized for months. After that experience, he has become a paleo afficiondo and preaches its benefits to everyone.

    • worldwide_webster

      “I don’t know anyone who has successfully done that.”

      I do! I know a lot of athletes, some paleo, some vegan, some raw vegan. One of my friends who was pre-diabetic, high blood pressure, overweight, and diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer totally turned her health around by going raw vegan. Her blood pressure is now normal, no diabetes, in shape (she also started exercising) and has been cancer free for four years. I could *not* do the raw vegan thing myself, and personally I think there are nutrients that are missed in some foods (like broccoli) by going raw, but if we’re talking anecdotes here…yes, I’ve seen it.

  • Bulletproofvegetarian

    I’ve been doing it for almost 2 years, and I’m a lacto-vegetarian so no eggs, but lots of raw organic pastured butter. I do primarily Proserum whey protein like Dave uses in his whey protein, some hemp protein which Dave discusses in one of his podcasts, and some natto which Dave also discusses in one of his podcasts. I do lots of Bulletproof supplements and Dave’s other supplement recommendations and eat everything else in the green. I have never felt better in my life and I am finally starrting to lose weight (tried everything – but have some underlying hormonal issues that I am finally getting to the root of). I monitor my lab work and my triglycerides even beat Dave’s at one point. My cholesterol ratio’s are so good, I have to make sure I’m not inverting the calculation, because even inverted they’re still great! And yes, I follow 1,2,3, and 4 although I got a little lax on 1 and appreciate the reminder.

  • I went strict vegan (no meat, dairy, eggs, fish, mussels etc) over 5 years ago, after being sent home to die with aggressive metastasised melanoma (in lymph and liver after 3 operations). The evidence suggested I needed to get calories from animal products under 10%, and when I did the numbers I was over 80%, so the easiest way for me was to say none!
    I have been healthier than at any other time in my life (since getting rid of the tumours – that the medical system said were untreatable).

    As a biochemist by training over 40 years ago, it seems to me that there are a lot of half truths and untruths out there in the cause of getting people to spend money, rather than a real focus on health and wellness.

    Most people are chronically short of vitamin C. A 70Kg goat makes about 10g per day of vit C under normal conditions, and upwards of 100g per day under stress. Recommended daily allowances (RDAs) are enough to prevent the chronic deficiency disease of scurvy, but not sufficient to allow the immune system to function at peak efficiency when required. A varied, plant based diet (over 90% of calories from plants) and most of those from raw food, is far healthier that most modern diets, provided the water supplies are clean, and one is not risking serious viral or bacterial infection from eating contaminated raw food (such risks vary hugely from place to place). If travelling eat cooked food and boiled water, and take at least 4g per day of vit C. I take about 18g per day, in 2 x 9g doses (pure L-Ascorbic Acid), and have done for almost 5 years.

    • judybarnesbaker

      Often the effects of a vegan diet don’t show up for a few years. Read the Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. She lasted for 20 years as a vegan but started to have cravings for animal foods much earlier. If she had paid attention to the cravings, she would not have permanently damaged her spine.

      • Hi Judy
        I was dealing with the results of 55 years of a largely meat diet, and an immediate diagnosis of “nothing known to medical science that can extend the probability of your death” which was given as “could be dead in 6 weeks, a 50% change of making 5 months and a 2% chance of seeing 2 years”.
        After doing a lot of reading, and with the background of my training as a biochemist, and looking as objectively as possible at the evidence available, I stopped eating animal products, and went raw vegan with high dose vit c. It took 3 months for the tumours to go. They came back after just a few days of reduction in vit C. The last time I reduced vit c, I got a tumour (excised and examined – same melanoma type). That was almost 5 year ago. Since then I have not missed a day, two doses, at least 5g per dose – most often about 9g per dose.
        I remain largely vegan (though sometimes when eating out I am certain I have eaten things that while the seller claimed they were vegan, actually contained animal products, particularly dairy products in sauces – though the quantities were small).
        No more tumours.

        Sure, any broad dietary theme can be deficient in specifics. And being as varied as possible within a theme reduces the risks of deficiency. And being as knowledgeable as possible about the probabilities associated with different specific needs in different contexts of the needs of ones own body specifically and of groups more generally is useful.

        And in the context of someone who is facing immediate risk from cancer, I strongly advise removal of all animal products, adopting a varied and as raw a diet as possible (however foul it tastes), and supplementing with high dose vit c, and minimal doses of other vitamins and minerals (vit C is the only vitamin that is usually safe in mega-doses, and one needs to stay hydrated – always take it with water).

        • Eric Danger Palmer

          do you use amla? It’s an amazing source of vitamin C and other antioxidants!

      • worldwide_webster

        And how long before a heavily meat-centered diet shows its negative effects? I doubt many people here have been paleo for 20 years. Any diet can have deficiences. I have known vegans who developed B-12 deficiencies, on the other hand a friend who was an Atkins devotee developed scurvy because he was convinced fruits were the devil. No matter what your diet, you have to be careful and listen to your body.

        • judybarnesbaker

          Many traditional hunter/gatherer and herding societies have survived for thousands of years on a diet of mostly fish or meat and fermented dairy. (The Inuit, the Masai, etc.) I know lots of people who have been on a low-carb diet for 20, 30 or more years. I’ve been low-carb for 16 years. However, low-carb is not really meat-centered. If done correctly, it should be a low-sugar, low-starch, moderate protein, HIGH FAT diet. Such a diet causes you to eat less overall, so the actual amount of meat you eat is not increased; although it may become a larger percentage of your diet.

        • pixelzombie

          I’m glad you pointed out that paleo is not a high protein diet. People seem to mistake it for atkins.

        • judybarnesbaker

          Atkins is not high protein either. It is high fat, moderate protein, low carb, Paleo is higher carb and lower fat than Atkins according to the original authors, like Cordain. .

        • pixelzombie

          I had some co-workers on it in the past, and they mostly ate meat and other foods high in protein. Not sure if they were following it correctly.

        • judybarnesbaker

          It may be hard to get enough natural fat from today’s food supply. (Many of us supplement our coffee with grass-fed butter to increase the fat.) Societies that lived primarily on animal foods did not eat just the muscle meat. They actually preferred the organs and fat over the lean protein. (The Inuit fed the steaks to the dogs!)

      • Michi

        Oh wow. I really can’t believe you’re using that book as anything credible. It is full of contradictions and fabrications. She actually cites Wikipedia! Seriously, do a little research. She has no understanding of how the body even works, she has health problems and wants to blame them on veganism rather than find the real cause. I urge you to do actual research with real MD’s, nutritionists, scientists. The evidence is out there, I don’t know how anyone could take this book seriously.

  • judybarnesbaker

    I am pleased that you mentioned that soy is high in plant estrogens. Most men trying to build muscle know to avoid soy protein, but few people seem to be aware that flax contains hundreds of times more than soy. The Weston A. Price Foundation points out that a baby fed on soy formula would get the equivalent of 5 birth control pills a day. If a baby were given flax formula, it would get the equivalent of 3,500 birth control pills a day!

  • Laddie Cline

    Don’t waste your time being all things to all people. Your diet and your products are superior to those on the market. Keep playing to your bulletproof posse.

  • linda w

    I buy chocolate soy milk at trader joes and me and my daughter love to drink it. Is that in the say category as regular soy? Everyday i hear something new and its very confusing on what to eat or drink. Gives me a headache.

    • Cynthia Middleton

      Yes, it is absolutely in the same category as regular soy. If you must drink a milk replacement, you can make almond milk fairly simply (there are lots of recipes on the internet), or you can buy it.

      • judybarnesbaker

        I think coconut milk is an even better option. It is more satuated than butter and has less of the fagile omega-6 oils that cause inflammation.

  • Cynthia Middleton

    Getting enough protein is not so difficult. Many vegetables are reasonably high in protein–like broccoli–and grains like amaranth and quinoa, which have complete protein.

    • John

      You comment about Quinoa doesn’t tell the whole story. Quinoa is in fact a complete protein. BUT, while quinoa does have all the essential amino acids, it simply does not have an amount of protein even close to the amounts you would find in sources such as eggs, milk, meat or even legumes.

      Not all foods contain the same type of protein. Meat, eggs and dairy products are considered complete high-quality sources of protein that provide the full package of essential amino acids needed to stimulate muscle growth and improve weight management. Plant proteins such as grains, legumes, nuts and seeds are incomplete proteins in that they do NOT provide sufficient amounts of essential amino acids. In fact, research indicates that increasing consumption of high-quality complete proteins may optimize muscle strength and metabolism, and ultimately improve overall health.

      Lean meats contain heme iron, which is much more easily absorbed by the body than nonheme iron found in plant foods. Heme iron is an important dietary component for promoting cognitive health, including memory, ability to learn and reasoning. Heme iron is particularly beneficial for growing children because research indicates that some
      toddlers are at higher risk for iron deficiency, and childhood iron-deficiency anemia is associated with behavioral and cognitive delays.

      Unlike plant proteins, beef is the food supply’s most easily absorbed source of iron. In addition, beef is an excellent source of readily available zinc. The absorption of zinc from beef is about four times greater than that from a high-fiber breakfast cereal. As with iron, including meat in your diet also improves the absorption of zinc from other foods.

  • Jonathan Seeley

    Did I miss the part about where to get protein if plant sources like soy and other beans are out?

  • worldwide_webster

    Um, just pointing out that krill and fish oil are not vegetarian. Personally, I put hemp oil on everything (except for all the things I put coconut oil on!). Also, sorry but I don’t believe the anti-soy hysteria. I grow my own heirloom soybeans in my garden, soak and/or ferment them, and cook them well. (Love a quinoa, edamame, and avocado salad!) I do also eat quite a lot of black beans, also very thoroughly soaked (to the point of sprouting) and/or fermented before cooking. I have an athlete’s physique and am consistently mistaken for 20 years younger than my chronological age (in fact, I have been “passing” for 20 years younger in the entertainment industry for over a decade). I support those who eat grass-fed, pastured meat because I do believe it’s much better for animals and the environment compared to factory farming, no question. However, I’m not willing to do it myself any more than I’d be willing to eat my pets if it was found to be good for me and the environment…this is just how I see things after being a vegetarian for over 30 years. Also, while environmental concerns are not my primary reason for being vegetarian, surely people must realize that resource-wise, it is only possible for a small (read: privileged) portion of the planet to be heavy meat eaters. I say this NOT to convince anyone here to go vegetarian (I know I won’t convince you anyway, and your diet is your own business) but to point out that those who *do* desire to be vegetarian should not be scared off by an excessively restrictive diet. There are quite a few paleo devotees who are not so zealous as to eschew beans when properly prepared. I have known VERY healthy paleo eaters, and also VERY healthy vegans, as well as unhealthy people in both camps. In all honestly, I think that extreme diets are not the answer so much as eating “clean” and avoiding processed food.

  • judybarnesbaker

    I know, I also did so many many things wrong with my babies! I should have known better, but it never occurred to me to question my doctor’s advice. All we can do now is try to warn others.

  • Michi

    I was coming on here to purchase some more brain octane after my palm oil question was answered satifactorily, but after reading this, I will have to reconsider. Trying to change peoples minds about vegetarianism is completely irresponsible! Wow. I’m blown away by that, and some of the completely false statements being made below. Eating grass fed beef is better for the environment than eating no meat at all? Are you for real? I don’t know how people actually spew this stuff out. The fact is that grass fed beef is actually MORE of a strain on our environment. I am truly disgusted by this misleading statement. And if you would like to know if something is humane or not, think of if you would like it done to yourself. There is no “humane” way to slaughter an animal. Also, there is so much evidence out there contradicting what you’re saying about “high quality meat is great for you” No. We are natural herbivores. Our digestive tracts are way too long to accommodate meat, carnivores have very short digestive tracts so meat does not rot on the way out. We also have opposable thumbs to peel fruit, not claws and fangs to tear into hide and flesh. We are not capable of digesting raw meat like every omnivore/carnivore on the planet. That’s why there are so many health problems associated with eating meat. I have been a vegan for a long time now, and know a lot who have been for many, many years longer. I have heard story after story of people turning their lives around by switching to veganism, it’s truly amazing what it can do for your health. It’s not only the best thing you can do for your own body, but the best thing you can do for the animals, your conscience and the environment. Very disappointed in this article.

    • Câmara P. Ni Na

      This is absolutely wrong! We are not herbivores! !!! We are omnivores. ..ever have been! And whoever said that we are herbivores are completely wrong! !!

      • Michi

        Wow. What a powerful argument. I think I’ll take the word of these world renown MD’s over you.

        Paleontologist Dr. Richard Leaky: “Anyone who has taken an introductory
        physiology course may have discerned intuitively that humans are herbivores.
        You can’t tear flesh by hand. You can’t tear hide by hand. We wouldn’t have
        been able to deal with food sources that require those large
        canines.

        Dr. T. Colin Campbell who is a professor at Cornell University and the
        author of The China Study says: “We only recently began eating meat and the
        inclusion of meat came well after we became who we are today. The birth of
        agriculture only came into play about 10 000 years ago when it became
        considerably easier to herd animals. This is not nearly as long as the time
        it took to fashion our biochemical functionality.

        Dr. Neal Barnard who is the president of the physicians Committee for responsible
        medicine and a contributor to the plant based chef certification course that
        I was a part of: “Early humans had a diet much like other great apes, which
        is to say a mainly plant based diet, drawing on foods we can pick with our
        hands. Research suggests that meat eating probably began by scavenging –
        eating leftovers that carnivores had left behind. However, our bodies have
        never adapted to it. To this day meat eaters have higher instances of heart
        disease, cancer, diabetes and other problems.”

        Dr. Milton Mills : Our hands are perfect for grabbing and picking fruits and vegetables. We have long intestines similar to other herbivores, not like the short intestines
        of carnivores that quickly get rid of the rotting flesh that they eat. We
        don’t have sharp claws to catch and hold down the prey that we eat. And most
        of us lack the instinct that would drive us to chase and then kill animals
        and devour their raw carcasses.

        Dr. William C. Roberts, author of The American Journal of Cardiology: “The
        point is this: Thousands of years ago when we were hunter gatherers we may
        have needed a bit of meat in our diet in times of scarcity, but we don’t
        need it now. Although we think we are and act as we are, we are not natural
        carnivores. When we kill animals and then eat them, they end up killing us
        because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never
        intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores.”

        • Câmara P. Ni Na

          The problem is that Leaky is a fraud!

        • Câmara P. Ni Na

          And apes like meat…chimpanzees eat meat and vegetables. ..they are , as we, Ornivores!

        • Câmara P. Ni Na

          Many people does not know that there are many types of Ornivores. ..and they are very different. ..some of them eat occasionally meat…others more often. ..our teeth show that we really are NOT herbivores at all…nor are we carnivores! We eat , what we get and our body deal with all of it very well. If we were herbivores, we had to have a whole other system of digestion! Like cows. ..they have 5 stomachs!

        • Michi

          You cite one person as a fraud, but even if that were true, is the author of the American Journal of cardiology a fraud? Professor at Cornell University? President of the committee for responsible medicine? You don’t sound like you know what you’re talking about. Our teeth ARE like herbivores. You cite cows, a different kind of herbivore, when there are countless herbivores with digestion systems like ours. And apes “like” meat? Sorry, again, I think I’ll go with the world renown MD’s who actually have medical degrees over you.

        • Max

          Do we eat tough, cellulose-high foods like a cow, nope right? We don’t need five (and by that you mean four) stomachs like a cow because our veggies and fruits are very easy to digest in comparison……

        • judybarnesbaker

          Dr. Campbell admitted in a debate with Dr. Westman that he eats fish sometimes. He still says all animal protein is bad, so I am bewildered as to why he eats fish himself while telling others not to. Bill Clinton claims to be a vegan but says he eats eggs and salmon once a week because his doctor told him to. (His doctor is vegan advocate, Dean Ornish.) Vegan spokesperson, Allicia Silverstone, says she eats cheese so people won’t think she is “rigid” and “icey (sic).” Mahatma Gandhi tried to be a vegan, but ultimately declared that it was impossible, although he never quit trying to find a way to do it without harming his health. He declared that anyone who promoted veganism was an enemy of India.

        • Michi

          I’m sorry, but you are seriously misinformed. And I’m really not sure what your response has to do with what I wrote? You only responded about one of the doctors that I cited, and then started picking random celebrities who have nothing to do with my argument. First of all, Dr. Campbell does not call himself a vegan, he eats a plant based diet, but according to him it is 100% plant based. He and his entire family eat this way, I have never heard anywhere, including that debate that he ate fish sometimes. I have never heard that Bill Clinton eats fish once a week, I’ve heard sometimes, but not once a week. And Alicia Silverstone has said that if she’s at a party and she’s had a couple of drinks, she might have a piece of cheese if there’s a platter out, and then she realizes that it is not as good as the food she eats. I still have no idea why you would talk about celebrities who are 99% vegan anyway. What does that have to do with anything? Celebrities who “cheat” once in a while but are causing a significantly less amount of harm are not the problem. People who are spreading misinformation and untruths are the problem. And Mahatma Ghandi said anyone who promoted veganism was an enemy of India? That is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. He most certainly did not. Ghandi re-introduced milk after he got ill, but drinking the milk meant for another species baby couldn’t be more unnatural. The cow needs to be inseminated and then the calf taken from them so we can drink it’s milk. Obviously it was not meant for us, and it’s unfortunate that he didn’t find another way, but he was still causing much less harm to the animals and to himself by not eating meat. I still don’t have any idea why you would just bring up false facts from random people and how that has anything to do with what I’m saying, but please do better research before you just blurt out random things.

        • judybarnesbaker

          Look online for the debate between Dr. Campbell and Dr. Westman and you will hear him say that he eats fish. It is in the Q and A section at the end when he is asked if he thinks fish is bad. I think that is relevant since he is so often quoted as the authority on plant-based diets, even though he misinterpreted the results of The China Study. He claimed that it showed that all animal protein was harmful when the only one that showed such a result was casein, which the majority of people in China and many in other non-European cultures cannot metabolize. His own data does not support many of his conclusions. The data from the China Study is available if anyone wants look it up to see what it actually shows.

          If anyone with an open mind searches for info online they will find plenty evidence to support my comments. I’m not interested in getting into a lengthly debate here. I plan to write a blog post on the subject when I have time and I will include citations there.

        • Michi

          You responded to MY post with random false facts, now you don’t want a debate. Dr. Campbell follows a plant based diet, that means mostly plants, and whole foods. No processed foods. Even if he does eat fish once in a while, it does not contradict the quote of his that I posted. We were never meant to eat meat. We did it because of scavenging and our bodies got used to it. We do not NEED meat to live, it’s actually causing so many problems. Read the WHO report about red meat causing cancer. Go to the Cancer Research Society website recommending a vegetarian diet to prevent cancer. The UN has come out and said adopting a vegan diet can help save the world. It’s estimated that a global vegan diet would save more than 8 million lives by 2050, reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two thirds and save $750 BILLION PER YEAR in health care. The president of the American College of Cardiology wants people to adopt a vegan diet for heart disease prevention and he eats a vegan diet himself. The information is out there. It’s piling up. People are realizing it, and one day people will look back and be horrified that their ancestors ate meat. Go ahead with your blog post, I have an incredibly open mind, I just know the truth and the truth can’t be molded into something else.

        • judybarnesbaker

          Indeed the truth will eventually come out and there will be a lot of suffering before it does. That much we can agree on.

        • Michi

          The truth is already out. Some people may refuse to see it , but it’s there. And unfortunately there is already a whole lot of suffering going on. The needless suffering and torture of Billions of animals a year.

      • Max

        Ever have been…..where did you get that idea? Have you studied human evolution at length? We are omnivores only as opportunity arises, more scavenging and desperation than anything else. Also, only cultural processes leave archaeological evidence of diet. Therefore it is flawed, or at least skewed, since eating plant based leaves no archaeological trace, it composts and needs little special tools, whereas animal remains conveniently leave bones.

    • Jillian

      Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree. I want to try the bulletproof diet, but I will absolutely not eat meat. I do not give a crap if they are raised in the most beautiful setting. At the end of the day, they are being murdered for our consumption. WRONG! I love animals and I won’t let one die so I can eat it. I wonder how many people would eat meat if they had to kill the defenseless and innocent animal themselves? What is wrong with people?

    • Paige Elaine

      Thank you for pointing this out. I felt this article dulled the idea of eating Bulletproof as a vegan rather than educating and expanding further on these alternatives. Disappointing and written in poor taste for the titled audience.

  • BarbaraK

    Wow…there is so much information on here my head is spinning. I have been a vegetarian since my mid twenties. I am now an “active” 55 year old that has been told I have osteoporosis in my lumbar spine. I have been questioning if not eatting meat has harmed me. I do eat eggs, dairy and fish. I was told I was very low on vitamin D and my doctor wants me to take 4000 iu of But D a day. I am taking a liqid form of Vit D and a liquid vacuum/vit D supplements. I stopped eating meat because the thought of eatting another mammal disgusted me. I then learned that my intestines were too long to digest meat. I watched videos of how diseased animals were butchered and slaughtered. I read now about the added hormones, antibiotics and on and on.

    I am researching on how to reverse my osteoporosis without taking the harmful drugs my doctor is trying to convince me to take such as biophoshates and my reading has lead me to question if I should be drinking bone broth????? I hate the thought of this but from what I have read bone broth is extremely good for you and the bones.. The thought of cooking an animals bones and drinking the brioth is disgusting but I will do it to help my own bones. I am also considering a collagelatin supplement. What are your thoughts about this. Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated. I am just learning to white water kayak and I am trying to get strong for Spring. ?

  • BarbaraK

    Wow…there is so much information on here my head is spinning. I have been a vegetarian since my mid twenties. I am now an “active” 55 year old that has been told I have osteoporosis in my lumbar spine. I have been questioning if not eating meat has harmed me. I do eat eggs, dairy and fish. I was told I was very low on vitamin D and my doctor wants me to take 4000 iu of Vit D a day. I am taking a liquid form of Vit D and a liquid calcium/vit D supplement. I stopped eating meat because the thought of eating another mammal disgusted me. I then learned that my intestines were too long to digest meat and that it was bad for me. I watched videos of how diseased animals were butchered and slaughtered and about the added hormones, antibiotics and on and on.

    I am researching on how to reverse my osteoporosis without taking the harmful drugs my doctor is trying to convince me to take such as biophoshates and my reading has lead me to question if I should be drinking bone broth????? I hate the thought of this but from what I have read bone broth is extremely good for you and the bones.. The thought of cooking an animals bones and drinking the broth is disgusting but I will do it to help my own bones. I am also considering a collagelatin supplement. What are your thoughts about this?? Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated. I am just learning to white water kayak and I am trying to get strong for Spring. ? I want to stay active and I don’t want to take drugs. I hate drug companies and I question everything. I am just overwhelmed with the information out here. These are items I am looking at getting:

    Krill oil
    A good probiotic
    Collagelatin
    Bone broth – need as I am allergic to chicken and Turkey
    V it C
    Fermented dairy – Kefer

  • BrightlyKids

    Interesting!

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    Interesting!!

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    Interesting!!!

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    Interesting!!!!

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    Interesting!!!!!

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    Interesting!!!!!!

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    Interesting!!!!!!!!!

  • Max

    Cows don’t use any water….rubbish. All cows, even ones that merely graze, no grains, will still need to drink to survive. If we didn’t actively farm animals, we would probably end up with herds of grazers anyway, just less of them. The we could be “like our ancestors” and kill them, if there was a dire need. However, we could also leave the killing to other species, since, being smart humans, we know that all the nutrients we need can be found in fruit, veg, bacteria and yeast. Oh, and legumes are not the devil people! Just soak and cook, that’ll remove the phytic acid everyone’s so afraid of. Excellent amino acids and minerals. And to really boost mineral intake, pumpkin seeds are excellent.

  • Ann

    Sorry dear your grossly misinformed.

  • Jillian

    Libby, do you have any suggestions? I want to try BP and I will never eat meat. Help? I am not sure what to substitute for meat.

  • Eli

    What about Chia seeds?

    • judybarnesbaker

      Chia is a much better choice than flax. It doesn’t have as much estrogen and doesn’t go rancid as quickly. It has the kind of fiber that forms a get, like flax and also contains a lot of omega-3 fats. If you are a vegan, chia may help, but if not, there is no reason to avoid the best sources for omega-3s like fish, seafood, snails, pasture raised meat, dairy, and pasture eggs.

      • Emily Lynch

        phytoestrogen is not the same as estrogen…

  • felicia

    this is my personal opinion as far as the environment and im definetly not trying to change anyones belief or anything just an insight on something different. As far back as the caveman and hunter and gatherers these people ate meat and it might have been brutal the way the animals were hunted but even in the wildlife animals hunt one another and their lives arent solely meant to be eaten sometimes they play sometimes they look for food etc. these hunter and gathers our great ancestors did not leave much of a carbon footprint or damage the environment. we still have very few tribal people left and i think most of them hunt and gather and eat meat as well but again they dont damage our environment.

    I would consider myself an environmentalist even though i eat meat because i try my best to recycle everything, i bring reusable bags to the grocery store to avoid the use of plastic bag waste, when i can afford it i choose only organic grass fed or pasture eggs, i do sometimes choose organic including my fruits and vegetables for my health and to avoid the use of pesticides that is damaging not just to me but killing our bees and butterflies and damaging our soil. I also only buy natural products when it comes to dishwashing soap, laundry , shampoo, deodarant, etc without the use of chemical ingrediants.

    As far as the bulletproof diet goes i am pretty much a fan of the products and there is some intriguing science and facts in the book. Although im not 100 certain of the damaging effects of fructose. i can see how it can be inflammatory in people with daibetes or possibly an autoimmune disease like myself where too much sugar including fruit causing joint pain, but i do feel there are powerful antioxidants in fruits not just vitamin C but what gives them the colors and i can see how they would be like natures dessert but i dont see how they are so bad for you as to say three apples a day keeps the doctor well paid.

  • felicia

    also in response to people becoming vegetarian on trying to help the environment there are other reasons people choose this lifestyle or diet but the whole organic thing is kinda new i dont know much organic food even 5 years ago that was in most grocery stores so if you wanted to be helping the environment in this aspect you kinda had to be vegetarian as there were pretty much no organic options. only a year ago our meijer and walmart and target superstores started carrying those products and if you dont live in a big city you may not have had a fresh thyme or whole foods around to purchase from. so yeah the whole organic thing is kinda a new trend so i guess its much easier then it was before to be environment friendly and still eat meat

  • Steph

    Without soy products or quinoa, i’m struggling to get enough protein as I can’t eat eggs (so am effectively vegan). Could you recommend protein sources to eat regularly?

    • Daria

      Hi I think many greens as Dave said like broccoli are high in protein. I love and use hemp seeds and other seeds like chia, sunflower, pumpkin but they are higher in carbs so I do limit as the nuts I use, like almonds, walnuts etc. I use nut milks a lot too. I also use hemp protein for my shakes with chia and kale etc. in nut milk. I love but limit nut butters. I would use fermented soy products like tempeh and I stay away from non fermented soy proteins. Sea veggies are great source of nutrition and high in minerals so I include them. It is hard doing this as a vegan but it can be done and not as hard as one thinks.

  • Cindy

    I am just starting the bulletproof diet. I also follow a pescatarian lacto-ovo diet (I eat fish and milk and eggs but no meat or chicken). So far it seems that I can follow Dave’s diet without eating the meat or chicken. I am taking Krill. Any pointers or recipes would be appreciated!