Dr. Terry Wahls: Defeat Disease Using Diet – #70

Dr. Terry Wahls
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After being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, Dr. Terry Wahls used diet and functional medicine to go from being bound to a wheelchair to being able to ride her bike to work. Dr. Wahls discusses her new book The Wahls Protocol: How I Beat Progressive MS Using Paleo Principles and Functional Medicine and why diet ranks so highly in not just treating illness, but preventing it. You’ll learn about the benefits of neuromuscular stimulation, how to eat using color, and how Terry is using diet to beat MS. Her story makes for one powerful podcast episode!

After being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, Dr. Wahls began studying the latest research on autoimmune disease and brain biology. She decided to get her vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and essential fatty acids from the food she ate rather than relying on prescription drugs. Dr. Wahls adopted a nutrient-rich Paleo-style diet, gradually refining and integrating it with a regimen of neuromuscular stimulation. First, she walked slowly, then steadily, and then she eventually was able to bike eighteen miles in a single day. In November 2011, Dr. Wahls shared her remarkable recovery in a TEDx talk, Minding My Mitochondria, that immediately went viral. Now, in The Wahls Protocol, she shares the details of the protocol that allowed her to reverse many of her symptoms, get back to her life, and embark on a new mission: to share her findings and results with others suffering from the ravages of multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune conditions.

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What You’ll HearThe Wahls Protocol by Dr. Terry Wahls

  •   0:31 – Intro
  •   2:00 – Welcome Terry Wahls and The Basics of, The Wahls Protocol
  •   4:15 – Similarities between the Bulletproof lifestyle and The Wahls Protocol
  •   4:45 – Mitochondria, Multiple Sclerosis, and her early Paleo Diet
  •   7:30 – Scanning the brain
  •   9:00 – Spinal taps and electrical stimulation
  • 15:09 – Low-dose Naltrexone treatment
  • 18:50 – The Wahls Diet most effective for fatigue
  • 20:00 – The importance of micronutrients in the The Wahls Diet
  • 22:00 – Diet is important for preventing disease
  • 24:00 – Is the medical community coming along with functional medicine?
  • 25:10 – It’s all about the clinical research and measured results
  • 26:10 – How to study polyphenols effectively
  • 28:00 – Why are colors so important in The Wahls Diet?
  • 29:00 – Does Dr. Wahls like coffee?
  • 30:12 – How to get more polyphenols in your diet
  • 32:50 – How to eat fresh
  • 34:00 – Powdered vegetable blends and mold toxins!
  • 35:30 – Garlic and onions and blood fluidity and the importance of glutathione
  • 38:00 – Garlic: not just for keeping vampires away!
  • 40:00 – Dr. Wahls take on raw meat
  • 42:40 – The cost of neuromuscular stimulation at home
  • 45:00 – Dave uses neuromuscular stimulation to work out!
  • 46:00 – Bulletproof Conference 2013
  • 47:00 – E-stim is being used across the board in the healthcare industry
  • 49:00 – Dr. Wahls’ top 3 recommendations for kicking more ass and being more Bulletproof!

Featured Links


Dr. Terry Wahls on Facebook

The Wahls Foundation

The Wahls Foundation Facebook

The Wahls Protocol (book)

Twitter – @WahlsFoundation

Minding My Mitochondria – Dr. Wahls at the Ancestral Health Symposium

Bulletproof Links

New Bulletproof Diet Infographic!

Bulletproof Upgraded Glutathione Force

2013 Bulletproof Conference

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By Dave Asprey

  • Andrea Rice Sinclair

    After almost one year following Paleo/ Minding My Mitochondria influenced diet (and “bulletproof coffee”) my latest MRI has come in unchanged and I am feeling better than I have in my gut health. I am so grateful for people like you and Terry, Dave. I have quietly adjusted my life into better health and one so full of hope.

  • John Doerfler

    Please work on the audio for the next podcast, the last 2 have been hard to listen to. Real hard.

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  • Jack1176

    Hey Dave,
    Are you considering making a bulletproof version of soylent?

  • Jenny

    Listening to the discussion around Mitochondria, I just have to ask about Maffetone training. I know that most of the Ancestral community is down on cardio. However, the whole concept of Maffetone is that you train at low enough (aerobic) intensity to stimulate the growth and productivity of your mitochondria. It is time consuming to do Maffetone, so I can understand why many folks would choose not to do it. But I feel very healthy doing it, and from what I understand about mitochondria and Maffetone, it seems like it’s probably a positive thing to do, if you don’t mind spending the time. Thoughts?

  • BulletproofTinMan

    Where does the whole body vibration plate fit in this discussion? I was kinda suprised you didn’t bring it up near the end of the conversation

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  • haig

    I found the observation that garlic inhibited alpha waves really interesting because I was previously aware of the traditional strict Buddhist diet which, while being vegetarian, does not allow garlic, onions, leeks, and other ‘excitatory’ plants as they refer to them.

  • Emily

    Dave, PLEASE fix your mic! It’s really difficult to listen to and is driving my boyfriend insane in the background.

  • This was very informative, Thanks!

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